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  Memorial Bread-Break a piece off or eat whole?

  by TakeOffTheCrown in

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  question for some of the old-timers in the congregation.

  did those who professed to be of the anointed and partook of the bread, did they break off a piece of the bread and then eat it; or did they take the whole piece and eat it?

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  Nathan Natas

  TakeOffTheCrown asked, "Nathan Natas - please, describe how you saw it being done. Was the bread always broken into pieces before being served?"

  As I recall, the matzoh was left in one piece and when someone wanted to partake, they broke off a small piece (less than one inch square) and put it in their mouths, closed their mouths and ate it.

  Nothing is worse than someone who chews with lip-smacking delight while the speaker is telling everyone why they are not worthy to partake, unless it is the person who brings their pet parrot to the affair. I never realized that parrots could partake. Who am I to judge them?
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  Memorial Bread-Break a piece off or eat whole?

  by TakeOffTheCrown in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  question for some of the old-timers in the congregation.

  did those who professed to be of the anointed and partook of the bread, did they break off a piece of the bread and then eat it; or did they take the whole piece and eat it?

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  Nathan Natas

  I agree with village Idiot; that is how I always saw it done.

  As for the "emblems feast," no that sounds too far out.
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  Confused trying to understand JW GF or soon to be EX

  by James87 in

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  2. relationships

  i dont know where to start so why not at the beginning.

  i was seeing this girl and we hit it off great chemistry.

  it went from a physical to a deeper relationship.

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  Nathan Natas

  James87, it is becoming obvious that you only want to stubbornly argue with us about how you can magically get this girl to leave the Watchtower because you love your girl more than any other man has loved any other woman.

  This is your first "real relationship" with a human female, isn't it?

  You ASKED for advice, but you were never prepared to accept the advice -- you want to argue with it. We are telling you what we have seen over the course of multiple individual lifetimes and through playing sounding board numerous times for people who have made the same disastrous decision that you want to make.

  But you think we don't understand how DIFFERENT your situation is. Here's a secret: you're not different from other guys, and she's not different from other girls. Only your names are different.

  We can see evidence of the depth to which you have deceived yourself about this girl's situation and your total lack of understanding about how good relationships -- and cults -- work.

  You are uninformed and you are weak; too weak to act in your own self-interest. The psychological term is "pussy whipped." That's ALL you can think about; all your problems will be solved if you can just get to that magical pussy. You're wrong.
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  Confused trying to understand JW GF or soon to be EX

  by James87 in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  i dont know where to start so why not at the beginning.

  i was seeing this girl and we hit it off great chemistry.

  it went from a physical to a deeper relationship.

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  Nathan Natas

  James87, you don't love her, you love a mental image you have created and stuck her face on.

  Your alternative is to go ahead and marry her, then in 6 months you will be saying, "Those XJW fuckers were RIGHT, man! WHY didn't I listen to them?"
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  Confused trying to understand JW GF or soon to be EX

  by James87 in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  i dont know where to start so why not at the beginning.

  i was seeing this girl and we hit it off great chemistry.

  it went from a physical to a deeper relationship.

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  Nathan Natas

  YES, you are fighting a lost cause, because her so-called "relationship" with you is based on DISHONESTY.

  She has been dishonest with you,

  she has been dishonest with her friends and family,

  and she may have been dishonest, or unfaithful, to the vow she made when she ecame a baptized Jehovah's Witness.

  You say the relationship between the two of you went from " a physical to a deeper relationship." I don't know what exactly you mean and I don't need to know. YOU know what you mean. SHE knows what you mean

  SHE knows if she has already done things that could get her thrown out of her religion and her family.

  YOU are not a JW. It is perfectly OK for YOU to communicate with me, but when you read this to her she will possibly have a fit or pass out. She might insist that you SHOULD NOT talk to me.

  She wants to trap you in the same mind-control CULT that she is trapped in.

  DON'T DO IT, MAN! Find yourself a nice normal girl who is not dishonest with you from the get-go.

  Read this to her, and watch her reaction. THAT will tell you everything you need to know.

  GOOD LUCK!

  
  
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  1970's Fred Franz prophecy books and current events

  by Gorbatchov in

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  i am convinced that world history will go on and on, and don't believe in an end time scenario.. but... and... .

  when events occure like trumps tomahawk strike on syria, putting bombing a place and many, many coalitions are made with friends and enemies, my thought are going back to a 40 years ago, when i was a litle boy raising up in a cold war naval harbour town in northwest europe.

  my jw grandfather learned me to investigate history.

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  "There will be wars and rumors of wars, but the end is not yet."
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  Memorial - from disgusted to feeling sorry

  by UBM101 in

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  i went with my husband tonight for the first time.

  it was pretty appalling how they lied about the 144k and everyone else.

  then passing the wine and bread for nothing.

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  Nathan Natas

  Hmmm...

  "Show by your acts that you DESERVE UNDESERVED kindness."

  It certainly seems that the GB speech-writers have reading comprehension problems of their own, Silly Gooses!
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  To those taking a stand and not attending the Memorial tonight

  by doubtfull1799 in

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  i salute you.

  many of you, like me, are probably under enormous emotional pressure, whether from a lingering false sense of guilt from your indoctrination, whether from "invitations," and assumptions that you'll naturally be coming, or whether from outright emotional blackmail, even begging and pleading.

  i am thinking of you whoever you are, all of you, even though i don't know you in person.

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  Nathan Natas

  Everyone survived?

  No one was crucified?

  Whew, that was CLOSE.
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  Nightmare on memorial night. This cult really sucks.

  by Still Totally ADD in

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  this morning i woke up from a good night's sleep to a horrible nightmare.

  as soon as i woke up i asked myself when am i going to get this cult out of my head.

  as a disclaimer i just want you all to know my wife would never do this because she is a hard fast atheist.

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  Nathan Natas

  "There is a crack, a crack, in everything.

  That's how the light gets in." -- Leonard Cohen

  Perhaps your dream was a consequence of cognitive dissonance;

  on the other hand, it might have been a bit of un-digested potato.

  Nothing to fear, either way.
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  Was it just me or was something different about the memorial last night?

  by kpop in

  1. jw
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  this was the first memorial that i declined to do any work for the memorial.

  i was assigned as a parking attendant after getting downgraded from doing the sound and had no intention of doing either task but i had to attend for my family and continuation of my fade.

  i sat there last night listening to the talk and couldn't help but shake my head as my brain attempted to process the bs.

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  Nathan Natas

  The doorways of your perceptions are opening. Congratulations!